This is for all the amazing and marvelously talented Trobed writers out there, for sharing their extraordinary stories and their immense love for these two best friends.
I guess this is Troy and Abed in the new mini Dreamatorium, Abed’s in his Evil Abed getup back from S03E22 “Introduction to Finality,” which included sunglasses in a scene if you’re wondering why he’s wearing them here in addition to his dumb felt goatee. : )
If tomorrow really is going to be the last episode of Community, I will be devastated. I can’t bear to see Troy and Abed go so soon. I can’t remember ever loving or shipping another relationship on a TV show as hard as these two. Troy and Abed have brought me more joy than you could ever imagine.
Andy Bobrow engaging on twitter with accusations that the show has been using gay jokes a little bit too often as of late.
The initial tweets to Bobrow can all be found here and covered a variety of subjects including queerbaiting, the portrayal of the Dean, and the increase in homophobic jokes. Bobrow’s responses were… pretty stock-responsey in nature and he failed to own up to the majority of points raised. He failed to take responsibility for the anti-gay jokes that have emphatically not been solely designated to Pierce as of late like he tries to tell us; they’ve in fact been validated and perpetuated by more sympathetic characters such as Jeff and Troy. This is wrong, and he does not address it.
Irate Jeff/Annie shippers were given more attention and longer responses than these important concerns about the representation of queer people on Community. Other ships’ complaints about being baited were heard and acknowledged in some form or another, and yet Bobrow seems willfully ignorant of the concept of queerbaiting despite the similarity to other ships’ situations.
This subject has garnered very little attention and the majority of this Twitter-based effort to bring these issues to Bobrow’s attention fell on one person. I’d like for this post to be circulated, so that maybe if our well-articulated arguments won’t get us listened to, maybe numbers will.
I remember when I used to think that Community’s writers were oddly nice to us Trobed shippers. Now, it’s not even about ships, they are just being straight up dismissive to anyone with issues involving queer representation. I have not seen the last few episodes yet (partially because I haven’t liked this season that much, and partially because I’m graduating in a month :|), but I heard about Troy’s Batman bit in the Thanksgiving episode and was rather upset about it.
It’s not about us wanting Trobed to be canon, or even for Troy and Abed to be canonically queer (though obviously as a Trobed shipper and a queer Community fan myself, I would be ecstatic if one or both of those things happened). It’s just that we don’t think it’s funny or cute that the concept of Troy and Abed being a romantic couple is considered a joke. It’s really not that far fetched that viewers would look at two people who are as emotionally intimate as Troy and Abed and think they could easily become a couple.
By the way, when I say “emotionally intimate,” I’m not even looking at the things said in a joking manner like Troy wanting to have Abed’s babies or the Kickpuncher sex scene. I’m looking at the end of 20th Century Romanticism, where Troy seeks out Abed after defending him to the woman he was on a date with. I’m looking at them coming together to sing “Somewhere Out There” because even though Troy thought it was stupid, it meant something to Abed, and that was more important. I’m looking at their Han and Leia moment in Epidemiology- Troy didn’t even mean it as a set-up to a movie quote, he just wanted to tell Abed he loved him, and Abed felt it fitting to refer to him and his best friend in the style of one of the most iconic movie couples of all time. I’m looking at the entirety of “Pillows and Blankets”, an episode examining both the flaws and the beauty of Troy and Abed’s relationship. I’m looking at three seasons that led to an episode in which Abed went into a major depressive state where he wouldn’t even leave his apartment for months because he had lost Troy. And the first thing Troy wanted when he was finally freed from the people who had taken him from his friends? He wanted to hug Abed.
So realize what it says to us when you make comments like, “we can’t read fan fiction because it might influence the show, but we still read Troy/Abed fic,” or just acting like it’s surprising or weird that people ship them. We know that dealing with the intensity of Community’s shippers has been tiring, but take a break from the J/A fans and please take in out legitimate concerns.
It goes beyond shipping for us. Many Trobed shippers are queer ourselves, and so we’ve also been critical of how the Dean has been portrayed. We love the fun, weird, and wonderful character that is Dean Pelton, but sometimes it feels like the jokes are less about how inappropriate the specific costume he’s wearing it, and more about how “hurr hurr, he’s a dude in a dress.” One of my favorite Dean bits has been his Dualadean costume, how at first he was insecure about it, but then he met nice, open-minded people who thought positively of his outfit and raised his confidence. I thought it was a lovely little story about how sometimes it can be difficult to be yourself, but it is worth it, and it gave the Dean more depth while not ignoring or making fun of his love of crazy costumes. This season, we get dumb jokes like “this must be serious, he’s dressed as himself,” which go against Community’s accepting nature. Also, having your only queer character be a creeper? I have no issue with the Dean being who he is, but I wish it were paired with a queer character who showed a different side than the Dean, preferably one that respected personal boundaries more.
Okay, wow, this is the most I’ve written about Community for months, but I’ve been so frustrated about what has been going on that I think I needed to write this. I’m sorry that this makes no sense and is barely connected to the original post, I’ve very tired and just needed to vent.
So I really just want to take a minute to talk about the hug at the end of 21st Century Romanticism, because I don’t think I’ve talked about it much before but this photoset for it is gr9.
This is really the first time we’re introduced in a way we can see to the fact that Troy and Abed are not just emotionally close, but they’re physically close too, and this isn’t the first time. I mean yeah, we’ve seen them handshake and by the time of Romantic Expressionism we know that they hold hands and have simulated a sex scene together, but up until 21st Century we’ve never seen this intimacy with our own eyes, really.
And Donald Glover hits the nail on the head. Troy doesn’t act shy about hugging Abed or uncomfortable with looking him in the eyes or awkward about touching his best friend. He doesn’t act insecure about the fact that Abed isn’t naturally a cuddly person and doesn’t really respond to being loved at. It’s just very clear all at once that this is a familiar thing, that they’ve touched before and it’s been a long time since the first time they hugged.
What I love most about this hug though, besides the sense of familiarity, is the emotion on Troy’s face behind it, and the way he is once in the hug. His head is on abed’s shoulder, and you can just see him willing the love into Abed, trying to express exactly how much he cares about him and how much he knows others will care about him too. He doesn’t give him a bear hug, and he’s not acting like he pities Abed, he’s just trying to love on him as much as he can, because they’re going to get through the world together, they’re going to find someone perfect for both of them and it’s only a matter of time.
One of the things too that has always been a little heartbreaking and lovely to me in season 2 is that really before season 3 we don’t see just how much Abed cares about Troy in return. There’s a sort of pining about the whole thing that I get a sense of, especially in scenes like this, a sort of “I can’t really fully express how much I care about you” a thing like “I don’t really know what this is, but I’ve never felt it before and I didn’t even know someone could feel this way about another person.” And I don’t even necessarily mean it in a romantic sense, although I do think their friendship is very romantic, but in a more deep, soulmate-y sense. In season 2, they’re still navigating this ship, but not as much in season 1. They’re figuring out really how deep that love goes, and what it’s like to feel something that strongly, and to feel that strongly every day in a casual way, in everything the other person does. But anyway, Troy who wears his emotions on his sleeve always, who loves Abed more than anything, very clearly doesn’t seem to care whether or not he’s pining. He’s too deep in it to care, and he’s gentle with Abed’s emotions in this regard because he’s still figuring out how Abed feels about the whole thing, and he’s trying to not overwhelm Abed even though he’s been overwhelmed by his feelings for a long time.
Oh god what do these boys do to me HALP I’m shipping and I can’t get up.
#i needed to gif this #because asdfghjkl?! #they’ve never exactly displayed this kind of physical closeness before? #sure they’ve hugged but it was always in important moments #idk i kind of squealed when it
I haven’t seen the episode yet (I didn’t watch the previous episode until the day after as well, as nothing about this season has made me feel like I have to watch it), but this is so adorable like idec about hte context the way Abed is letting Troy be that physically close with him even though he wouldn’t be with most people like ugh stop you two we get it you are boyfriends now only if your writers weren’t dumb and just made you canon UGH ;_____;
flerica replied to your post: flerica replied to your post: So I was just kinda…Even full AUs would be amazing. I want jock Troy secretly becoming friends with and then ~falling in love~ with weirdo outcast Abed, the cliche high school AU SO BAD. Like putting Abed in a locker and then feeling bad and ALL THE CLICHE.
Oh my god yes. Blatant sappy (but self-aware) cliche is a weakness of mine.
TBH this cliche is actually one of the reasons I ship Trobed. Jock/Nerd is such a thing for me, and the lack of fic focusing on season one Trobed, who have that dynamic, makes me sad :( I love high school AUs though, negl. I love that 1D fandom has so many, though it makes sense that that fandom would and Community wouldn’t, seeing as it already takes place in a school, and 1D are actually teenagers (okay yes Louis is twenty now but when 1D started he was eighteen so it still counts alright) and most of Community’s characters aren’t (though tbh I only really need Troy, Abed, and Annie for that high school AU. Maybe one where it’s Troy and Annie’s canon high school experience, only Abed goes to school with them too, and Troy and Abed eventually fall in love but keep it secret and Abed is the only friend Annie has after her ridiculous freak out because he’s the only person as weird as her and yes I want this SO BAD)
Also I just realized that every time I imagine or doodle high school AU Ziam, Liam’s a jock and Zayn’s an art kid/nerd, and they actually are kind of like Trobed (because Liam is sooooooooo Troy and Zayn is kind of like Abed? But seriously, Liam is soooooooo Troy it’s not even funny), so I think my shipping of Trobed is affecting my shipping of Ziam. IDEK.
But okay so like Troy is all cute and dumb but a really good friend who cares deeply and tries his best but doesn’t always understand everything but he understands people and that’s Liam too. Like, Troy’s speech to Annie in Mixology Certification and, though I hate this episode, his insights into Britta in Vampire Mythology and his general ability to get Abed when no one else does? Compare that to what Liam wrote about all of the boys in the Take Me Home album notes (is that is the regular edition?) and all of his insights into the boys that he has in interviews (especially the ones about Zayn BE STILL MY HEART), and it’s obvious that Liam is pretty much IRL Troy, personality wise.
(Also totally random but Donald rapped on Leona Lewis’ latest single and, well, all of the weird Liam/Leona stuff, and that all happened at the same time, so that’s kind of lulz to me when looking at what I just wrote)
And Zayn can be sort of Abed? I mean, at first I was just like, well, they are the other half of the pairing, and they are both my favorites, and they are both Muslim,
and they are both too gorgeous to be real? But then I remembered how Zayn said he took awhile to warm up to people, how he can be quiet and a bit distant around people he doesn’t know, but when he’s with the boys or his friends and (I assume, obv we don’t know much about this relationship on purpose) Perrie, he’s a lot more open and goofy. Like how he barely speaks in interviews, and spends most of them just crawling all over the other boys? Yeah, that distinct and extreme split between how he interacts with strangers and how he interacts with friends is like a less severe version of how Abed acts. And they are both huge nerds with a tendency for open plaid shirts over tees, so, you know. I guess there can be some similarities, just kind of surface levels once. They are both shy and weird, but not for the same reasons and not to the same degrees.
And then Liam was TDK!Batman for Halloween and that totally through this off because now I want to make bad macros with Bat-Abed’s quotes over pictures of Liam from Halloween. Are there any of him with Andy? Because I want to make one with that picture that says, “I know I’m not Batman. You could try being less of a jerk,” because lbr trufax.
OKAY I NEED TO GO TO BED NOW. THIS DAY HAS BEEN FUCKING WEIRD AND NOW I HAVE WRITTEN ALL OF THIS. UGH TOO MANY FEELS TUESDAY CAN BE OVER NOW PLZ. I AM SORRY TO MARIN AS AT LEAST HALF OF THIS REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ORIGINAL POST AND YOU ARE A REALLY COOL PERSON. SO I AM SORRY.